Comments on: What Streaming Music Services Pay (Updated for 2017) https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/ The authority for music industry professionals. Fri, 04 Dec 2020 05:53:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: TheDude https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-299869 Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:11:06 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-299869 q4-17 spotify was double what you show here for me. I’l check the others when I get a chance

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By: Anonymous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-298794 Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:57:24 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-298794 Thank you very much for the information. I used it for an essay.

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By: mr.crocker https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-298249 Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:45:04 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-298249 In reply to Frank hutm.

ummm

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By: Frank Hutm https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-298248 Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:43:35 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-298248 In reply to Frank hutm.

also you smell like sweaty balls

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By: Frank hutm https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-298247 Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:28:12 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-298247 In reply to Frank hutm.

You have a little cock shutup

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By: Frank hutm https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-298246 Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:27:25 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-298246 In reply to Len.

i dont think so bum

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By: WhoIsST https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-296049 Fri, 06 Oct 2017 13:51:40 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-296049 In reply to Paul Resnikoff.

I have a ton of data dating back a few years to current. I want this data to be used to help educate streaming musicians (myself included). I am currently exploring the idea to remove my music from all but a few of the higher paying platforms and concentrate my marketing to those.

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By: Suits and Sounds https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-295086 Sun, 10 Sep 2017 00:59:41 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-295086 In reply to pinecones.

Groove Music got some attention a while back for high stream rates. I would also like to see what it’s at now. Thank you!

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By: Tiges https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-294489 Sun, 03 Sep 2017 04:18:21 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-294489 In reply to Frustrated.

YES!!!!

This is supremely frustrating and is not helpful in educating an industry where it can be a little hard to get your head around how each of the different income streams work. Identifying the two sides of copyright and keeping terminology consistent is crucial.

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By: pinecones https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-294359 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:50:51 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-294359 Please add Groove Music.

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By: Al https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-293938 Wed, 23 Aug 2017 02:29:18 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-293938 In reply to Dude.

No, I think that the OP is right.

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By: George Johnson https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292929 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 02:35:46 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292929 Question, is this for 100% of the sound recording copyright…or the 45% that SoundExchange pays the “Artist”?

Also, does this include the underlying work “music and lyrics” copyright? Thanks, GREAT chart.

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By: Paul Resnikoff https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292835 Sun, 30 Jul 2017 00:06:26 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292835 In reply to Ari Herstand.

It’s worth noting how much each service pays out for mechanicals.

That one’s easy: $0

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By: Ari Herstand https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292782 Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:01:55 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292782 What about Amazon?

And I don’t think these include publishing royalties. It’s worth noting how much each service pays out for mechanicals.

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By: Murray https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292759 Thu, 27 Jul 2017 00:37:46 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292759 In reply to Anonymous.

What if your “songs” are just good music ,without political platform ?

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By: STOP THE DRUGS https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292757 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 23:38:38 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292757 that’s the average. Seen Tidal pay 0.06$ for some territories (probably HiFi sub), so people want your artists get paid, have a tidal hi fi.

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By: Bob https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292752 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 23:04:10 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292752 In reply to Maria Schneider.

They labeled it as monthly minimum wage in the article, I dunno what you’re complaining about.

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By: Chris https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292741 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:46:25 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292741 In reply to Len.

When artist do you mean the performance artist. I have a small record label. So we collect on owning the masters, performance & if we wrote the music all severally. Is this just about the performance artist,

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By: Maria Schneider https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292738 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:32:35 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292738 Paul, Your math is off by 12 times on some of your calculations. You’re not comparing apples to apples… you start talking about yearly minimum wage and then move to monthly. If you’re talking about “yearly” minimum wage, it would take 1,080,000 plays on Napster, 1,440,000 on Tidal, and so on. And an artist would have to maintain those numbers of views year after year. Please, if you start talking about yearly minimum wage as you do with Napster, then calculate it correctly to for that, and do it for all of them… by the time you get to YouTube, you’d need 25,200,000 per year, every year. It’s absurd. I think you really need to re-post this article and clarify, as it is very misleading unless somebody takes time from their day to calculate this like I did.

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By: bb https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292733 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:00:16 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292733 In reply to Greg.

agreed i think every one just hates it cause if jay-z it is the same price as spotifty in some cases 9.99

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By: Dude https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292729 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 18:44:09 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292729 In reply to Anonymous.

I interpreted annual loss as the amount that company paid to artists per year and not that they have a negative net profit per year. It is labelled poorly but it wouldn’t make sense for Spotify to be in business when they are going into debt by 194 million dollars a year.

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By: Rob smith https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292715 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 14:33:37 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292715 Whatever works for you is out there too

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By: Anonymous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292713 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 13:56:40 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292713 When every company is taking a loss, there is still something wrong with the industry — specifically the revenues. Implicitly or explicitly, everyone is still competing with The Pirate Bay. If streamers raised their rates, they would lose their users. It’s not a “free market.” It’s sad that the government will get into your life in a million other ways, but won’t step in to protect musicians’ intellectual property. “SAD!”

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By: Paul Resnikoff https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292691 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 03:11:21 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292691 In reply to Josh.

Please send documentation of this to news@digitalmusicnews.com (we will protect confidentiality and remove all identifying information).

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By: Paul Resnikoff https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292690 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 03:11:00 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292690 In reply to human.

Please send documentation of this to news@digitalmusicnews.com (we will protect confidentiality and remove all identifying information).

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By: An Artist https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292688 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:49:58 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292688 In reply to Josh.

My Spotify % was 0.002871 per stream in May 2017.

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By: Anonymous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292686 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:21:32 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292686 In reply to pjwassermann.

Yes, that’s closer, people don’t watch ads anymore. Why would they…

And Red never happened.

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By: Wheeee https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292676 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:00:37 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292676 Whole most of this data centers around on-demand spins, it’s important to note that most of Pandora’s spins are not on-demand.

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By: Greg https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292668 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:57:04 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292668 Tidal is very underappreciated. Between the higher payouts to the artists, the highest quality music files, and competitive pricing, it deserves to be much bigger.

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By: Josh https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292664 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:54:10 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292664 These figures seem quite high. Looking at our clients’ most recent statements, our Spotify per stream rates seem to be averaging .002 per stream, NOT $0.0044 per stream.

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By: human https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292662 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:33:44 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292662 spotify use to have one of the highest per/stream rate now indies are suffering because spotify left from a per-stream rate of .023×1.43 per premium stream from Jan-Mar 2017 to currently april 2017 of .0034×1.3 per premium stream which is over kill if you ask me….that company needs to be Gutted #AngryAtSpotifyNewStreamingRate

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD TO THE WORLD

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By: Shlomo https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292659 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:41:07 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292659 In reply to Frustrated.

Agreed. Really break down the royalties. Don’t just sensantionalize the article

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By: pjwassermann https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292657 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:59:54 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292657 The part about YouTube doesn’t seem to be correct. In my experience 2.1 million YT plays would pay about 120$.

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By: Anonymous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292639 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 04:15:21 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292639 In reply to Anonymous.

DMN, thanks for fixing the formatting…

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By: Frustrated https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292637 Tue, 25 Jul 2017 02:13:36 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292637 These sorts of articles really need to make it clear what income it includes – combined master income (i.e. label side AND/OR artist side) and whether or not the publishing income is included in the figures or not as well (and even that aspect needs to address whether or not the income presented includes publisher’s share AND/or writer’s share). Let’s always make sure it’s clear!

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By: Anonymous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292636 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:44:21 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292636 In reply to Anonymous.

Paul, if you see this, could you please delete the letter b from “bsomebody?” It’s part of a ‘bold’-tag that didn’t work for some reason…

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By: Anonymous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292635 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:41:13 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292635 “Don’t expect to earn money once again on: YouTube”

This is more true than ever:

Over the past years, YouTube has removed monetization from all videos that might offend somebody — and that’s a lot of videos!

So don’t use YouTube if your songs are left-wing, right-wing, feminist, non-feminist, gay, non-gay or have anything else to say about the world we live in today.

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By: Len https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/07/24/what-streaming-music-services-pay-updated-for-2017/#comment-292633 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:31:31 +0000 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/?p=82395#comment-292633 Slacker Music?????

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